The guys start the conversation with a video tour of their office spaces, which includes a litany of improperly canned foods (in Ben's office) and a cool microscope (Don's office). They talk about concerts, Don's son's wedding and Jury Duty. After a quick discussion on Canadian Thanksgiving (just known as "Thanksgiving" in Canada) and the Wire, the guys get into some feedback. Ben plays a new game with Don called "Guess the Headline" after reading a paper on ready to eat seafood. Don shares the results of some digging he did on Ginger Jake, a drink that was mentioned in a recent Risky or Not episode. After a quick detour to productivity and department head/chair talk, the guys talk about food at the state fair. The show ends with a quick conversation of the nuances of conducting public health and food safety research in developing countries.

Show notes so you can follow along at home:

There Are No Fakes
Great Places to Visit at Rutgers | Rutgers University
North Carolina State University Memorial Belltower - Wikipedia
Ken Kesey - Wikiquote
Neil Young’s Ditch Trilogy
FLOOD - Tired Eyes: An Appreciation of Neil Young’s Ditch Trilogy
Shovels & Rope
(1) Bob Marley - Roots, Rock, Reggae - YouTube
Saxapahaw, NC
Houndmouth
Sun Room
TRAVIS SCOTT
LOVETT OR LEAVE IT | Asheville, NC’s Official Travel Site
(19) Ziggy_Sobotka on X: “19 years ado today, #TheWire Season 3 Ep4: “Hamsterdam” premiered on HBO (10/10/04) “Look, we grind and y’all try to stop it. That’s how we do. Why you got to go and fuck with the program?” -Fruit https://t.co/fsXsgUMKes” / X
(19) Ziggy_Sobotka on X: “Hamsterdam made it on to Google Earth as a pharmacy. It has fourteen 5 star reviews. https://t.co/oMweOOpOnf” / X
Food Safety Talk 53: Raw Milk Hamsterdam — Food Safety Talk
Jury Duty (TV Series 2023– ) - IMDb
516. Horchata — Risky or Not?
Frontiers | Whole genome sequence analysis of Aeromonas spp. isolated from ready-to-eat seafood: antimicrobial resistance and virulence factors
Safety of sushi questioned by researcher
Triortho cresyl phosphate “Ginger Jake” disaster—United States,1930s - ScienceDirect
Ginger Jake and the blues: a tragic song of poisoning - PubMed
jake leg blues lyrics - Google Search
Jake Leg: An Affliction and the Blues It Inspired : NPR
Appearance: Food Safety Talk 254 — Liss is More
The Trick is Not Minding That It Hurts - Lee LeFever dot com
(1) Lawrence of Arabia Trick is not minding that it hurts - YouTube
The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life: Manson, Mark: 9780062457714: Amazon.com: Books
TextExpander: #1 Text Replacement & Keyboard Shortcut App
Sharpen the Saw: Exploring Covey’s Final Habit | Art of Manliness
Wake County Ensures Food Safety Takes Center Stage at NC State Fair | Wake County Government
Risk Factors for Foodborne Illness in Temporary Eating Establishments in North Carolina - International Association for Food Protection
Tara in a Smoothie cause of Liver Disfunction | Marler Blog
https://www.marlerblog.com/files/2023/10/A-food-product-as-a-potential-serious-cause-of-liver-injury.pdf
Researchers estimate the cost of foodborne infections in two African nations | Food Safety News
Frontiers | Economic costs related to foodborne disease in Burkina Faso and Ethiopia in 2017
Attribution of country level foodborne disease to food group and food types in three African countries: Conclusions from a structured expert judgment study - PMC
Dr Lucia Anelich – ICMSF | International Commission on Microbiological Specifications for Foods